coopheal
03-14 10:12 AM
It�s good that at least some of us are getting VISAs, instead of VISAs being lost.
However if this continues we could see a big movement to switch over to EB2 with or without porting PDs. This may in turn help EB3 :)
We need to make this a sticky thread, so that we can brainstorm and put best ways to switch from EB3 to EB2 w/keeping older PDs.
Below from post: http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=230406#post230406
http://www.murthy.com/news/n_analys.html
Transfer of the Earlier Priority Date : EB3 to New EB2
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The ability to transfer priority dates from an earlier, approved, I-140 to a later-filed I-140 could provide an alternative for job mobility, both within the current employer's organization or with a new employer. This would be helpful for those who want to make a change but are not eligible to file the I-485 application because of retrogression. It also could help people who are eligible to change from an EB3 classification to EB2. One would be eligible to request a transfer of the priority date from the earlier-filed EB3 petition to a new EB2 petition once the I-140 is approved. The new EB2 petition would need to be based upon a new LC for a position requiring the EB2 level of education and/or experience. (Over time, many people with EB3 cases have become eligible for EB2 cases due to increased experience and/or education, and promotions.)
This strategy potentially could shave off a few years in the queue for available immigrant visa numbers. This may be particularly appealing to those who had EB3 labor certifications filed on their behalf long ago and have had their cases pending while they have gained advanced degrees, acquired several more years of experience, and/or are offered jobs at higher levels. Keep in mind, though, that this involves filing a whole new LC under the PERM system for a new job opportunity and that the employer must actually require the additional degree and/or experience for all persons holding that job classification in order for the new case to be filed as EB2.
However if this continues we could see a big movement to switch over to EB2 with or without porting PDs. This may in turn help EB3 :)
We need to make this a sticky thread, so that we can brainstorm and put best ways to switch from EB3 to EB2 w/keeping older PDs.
Below from post: http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=230406#post230406
http://www.murthy.com/news/n_analys.html
Transfer of the Earlier Priority Date : EB3 to New EB2
�MurthyDotCom
The ability to transfer priority dates from an earlier, approved, I-140 to a later-filed I-140 could provide an alternative for job mobility, both within the current employer's organization or with a new employer. This would be helpful for those who want to make a change but are not eligible to file the I-485 application because of retrogression. It also could help people who are eligible to change from an EB3 classification to EB2. One would be eligible to request a transfer of the priority date from the earlier-filed EB3 petition to a new EB2 petition once the I-140 is approved. The new EB2 petition would need to be based upon a new LC for a position requiring the EB2 level of education and/or experience. (Over time, many people with EB3 cases have become eligible for EB2 cases due to increased experience and/or education, and promotions.)
This strategy potentially could shave off a few years in the queue for available immigrant visa numbers. This may be particularly appealing to those who had EB3 labor certifications filed on their behalf long ago and have had their cases pending while they have gained advanced degrees, acquired several more years of experience, and/or are offered jobs at higher levels. Keep in mind, though, that this involves filing a whole new LC under the PERM system for a new job opportunity and that the employer must actually require the additional degree and/or experience for all persons holding that job classification in order for the new case to be filed as EB2.
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BharatPremi
07-05 10:55 PM
Any good law-firms in the New York City area. My company should begin my EB3 filing early next year.
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ItIsNotFunny
03-05 04:07 PM
http://www.jingchenglaw.com/frontend/successstories/I_140_01.jpg
http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/i-485.pdf
also in the 485 form, please take a look on the right hand side where it says uscis use only....thats where they have "country chargeable," and I guess they are right that they make the determination during adjudication.
This is confusing. In that case how do they make ROW current or PDs way ahead of India? In other words, how do they know without touching a file that PD of a ROW file is current and is eligible to get GC!
Think about the flip side. If this is true, then once they preadjuridict all cases, thousands of ROW cases will immediately become eligible to get GC and India / China will not move for year(s)!
http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/i-485.pdf
also in the 485 form, please take a look on the right hand side where it says uscis use only....thats where they have "country chargeable," and I guess they are right that they make the determination during adjudication.
This is confusing. In that case how do they make ROW current or PDs way ahead of India? In other words, how do they know without touching a file that PD of a ROW file is current and is eligible to get GC!
Think about the flip side. If this is true, then once they preadjuridict all cases, thousands of ROW cases will immediately become eligible to get GC and India / China will not move for year(s)!
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mpadapa
07-01 11:27 AM
Fellow Texas folks, esp those from San Antonio and Austin.
Please call Rep. Lamar Smith's DC office, they are available this week.
Do request your friends in SA and Austin to call Rep. Smith's office and express support for the 3 bills.
Please call Rep. Lamar Smith's DC office, they are available this week.
Do request your friends in SA and Austin to call Rep. Smith's office and express support for the 3 bills.
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TheOmbudsman
11-08 02:37 PM
I hope you are right.
Thanks to people with your mentality, nobody reacted - if such awareness was ever able to trigger action - against the 245(i) amnesty and that is one of the reasons why you are stuck. Keep up with your rose mentality if that makes you feel good.
Regards,
The Ombudsman
:D Where have we heard this before.
To any member who has been looking at some of the posts since April/May of this year it will be apparant that there has been an attempt by the ultra conservative, anti-immigration groups to create a divide among legal and so called illegal immigration issues. It was good to see that most members perceived this and stayed away from singing the legal vs illegal immigration tune.
Now comes the lame attempt to play on your fears again. What would happen to you if all these so called "illegals" were to get in line ahead of you? The knee-jerk reaction is so obvious. If you see deeper, you will find that all this is BS and just wenting of frustration by the anti-immigration groups. There is a precedent for this behaviour. After the CIR was passed in Senate in May earlier this year, these same anti-immigration group members posted so many inflamatory posts that created a bad vibe on this forum. Well today is a redo of that. Just count the number of posts and you will know what I mean. ;) I urge all members to look at the new ray of hope provided by the change in the new congress and ignore attempts to dampen your enthusiasm in garb of fair and balanced aka an anti-immigration spin :)
Thanks to people with your mentality, nobody reacted - if such awareness was ever able to trigger action - against the 245(i) amnesty and that is one of the reasons why you are stuck. Keep up with your rose mentality if that makes you feel good.
Regards,
The Ombudsman
:D Where have we heard this before.
To any member who has been looking at some of the posts since April/May of this year it will be apparant that there has been an attempt by the ultra conservative, anti-immigration groups to create a divide among legal and so called illegal immigration issues. It was good to see that most members perceived this and stayed away from singing the legal vs illegal immigration tune.
Now comes the lame attempt to play on your fears again. What would happen to you if all these so called "illegals" were to get in line ahead of you? The knee-jerk reaction is so obvious. If you see deeper, you will find that all this is BS and just wenting of frustration by the anti-immigration groups. There is a precedent for this behaviour. After the CIR was passed in Senate in May earlier this year, these same anti-immigration group members posted so many inflamatory posts that created a bad vibe on this forum. Well today is a redo of that. Just count the number of posts and you will know what I mean. ;) I urge all members to look at the new ray of hope provided by the change in the new congress and ignore attempts to dampen your enthusiasm in garb of fair and balanced aka an anti-immigration spin :)
chanduv23
09-20 12:10 PM
they were not formed at the last moment in most cases
what makes you think people participate in those? from personal experience
in the MN chapter, it's hard to even get replies to e mails, forget meetings etc. of late though i'm glad to say the MN chapter has really beugun to pick up again.
ask the tri state guys how much effort they put locally- meetings- fliers- phone calls, all by a handful of volunteers. so all this is good in theory and yes it takes time. but the apathy (even hostility) that was encountered was frightening. ask chanduv23 someday what the tri state guys went through...
Yes, it was a major let down. We were hated, cursed, some members lost morale - but everyone who worked hard - did work very hard. We kept changing strategies based on situations trying to see if people will come - we did every little bit we could.
I am still trying to revive the chapter - some new members are active like laborchic and dressking and offcourse our Tri State volunteer team has always be trustworthy.
Once again - I know a lot of people do have genuine reasons and you must communicate.
what makes you think people participate in those? from personal experience
in the MN chapter, it's hard to even get replies to e mails, forget meetings etc. of late though i'm glad to say the MN chapter has really beugun to pick up again.
ask the tri state guys how much effort they put locally- meetings- fliers- phone calls, all by a handful of volunteers. so all this is good in theory and yes it takes time. but the apathy (even hostility) that was encountered was frightening. ask chanduv23 someday what the tri state guys went through...
Yes, it was a major let down. We were hated, cursed, some members lost morale - but everyone who worked hard - did work very hard. We kept changing strategies based on situations trying to see if people will come - we did every little bit we could.
I am still trying to revive the chapter - some new members are active like laborchic and dressking and offcourse our Tri State volunteer team has always be trustworthy.
Once again - I know a lot of people do have genuine reasons and you must communicate.
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njdude26
07-07 12:15 PM
Does this atleast help in filing for 485 even if numbers are not available ?
I think you will have some benefit out of this bill, albeit, indirectly. This Bill will exempt a lot of folks with advanced degrees from US and non-US universities. All advanced degree holders from US univs. (STEM and non-STEM) will be exempt. So, a person with an MBA flus a 4 year bachelors from a US univ. will be exempt. Also, folks with non-US STEM advanced degrees who have been working in the US in a related field for 3 or more years will be exempt as well. The family members of such folks are exempt as well. Consequently a lot of folks currently waiting in the pipeline may no longer be counted against the quota, thus reducing the clog in the pipeline. ANother benefit out of this bill is that it increases the quota from 140K to 290K. There fore, you will definitely see some positive movement in priority dates for people in your and other similar situations (this is the indirect benefit I was referring to). It is very hard to say at this point how much the positive movement would me. It will all depend on how many people will be exempt from the quota.
I think you will have some benefit out of this bill, albeit, indirectly. This Bill will exempt a lot of folks with advanced degrees from US and non-US universities. All advanced degree holders from US univs. (STEM and non-STEM) will be exempt. So, a person with an MBA flus a 4 year bachelors from a US univ. will be exempt. Also, folks with non-US STEM advanced degrees who have been working in the US in a related field for 3 or more years will be exempt as well. The family members of such folks are exempt as well. Consequently a lot of folks currently waiting in the pipeline may no longer be counted against the quota, thus reducing the clog in the pipeline. ANother benefit out of this bill is that it increases the quota from 140K to 290K. There fore, you will definitely see some positive movement in priority dates for people in your and other similar situations (this is the indirect benefit I was referring to). It is very hard to say at this point how much the positive movement would me. It will all depend on how many people will be exempt from the quota.
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redddiv
07-17 06:54 AM
My Lawyer didn't file my I-485 until July 7, 2007. He never replied to my e-mails or my phone calls.
My whole experience with them appeared to be as if I know more than them. It appeared as if I had to educate them about the development.
Considered changing lawyers and also considered filing on my own. But finally thought to ahve atleast soem attorney whom i know(at least i know what can expect?).
My whole experience with them appeared to be as if I know more than them. It appeared as if I had to educate them about the development.
Considered changing lawyers and also considered filing on my own. But finally thought to ahve atleast soem attorney whom i know(at least i know what can expect?).
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natrajs
07-14 02:48 PM
Dont be surprised at the next VB or theone for October where EB2 india moves back to Apr 2004 ....DOS can always surprise you, as we have learned repeatedly, all calculations/bets are off when it comes to DOS.
That's Why I don't trust USCIS/DOS. We better work on legislative changes, that's the hope to fix this mess
That's Why I don't trust USCIS/DOS. We better work on legislative changes, that's the hope to fix this mess
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engineer
06-09 11:51 AM
If we are educated and highly skilled that doesnot mean that we deserve automatic benefits.
In USA, political system works on coalition. If you help others then they help you in time of need.
How many of us have helped others without thinking "what is in it for me". I have seen people who are stuck in FBI Name Check and they dont help people with F1, H1, GC issue, so when one gets what (s)he wnats, everyone else is ignored.
If we want to stay in USA, then we have to leave our sofas and help other ogranizations in their cause. you don't have to agree with everything they say, but some things can always be agreed upon.
This is what I learnt from Congressman Keith Ellison.
So be part of political process at every level..city, state, etc..
Then when time comes and you need help, you will have people behind it..
In USA, political system works on coalition. If you help others then they help you in time of need.
How many of us have helped others without thinking "what is in it for me". I have seen people who are stuck in FBI Name Check and they dont help people with F1, H1, GC issue, so when one gets what (s)he wnats, everyone else is ignored.
If we want to stay in USA, then we have to leave our sofas and help other ogranizations in their cause. you don't have to agree with everything they say, but some things can always be agreed upon.
This is what I learnt from Congressman Keith Ellison.
So be part of political process at every level..city, state, etc..
Then when time comes and you need help, you will have people behind it..
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svam77
07-23 03:34 PM
Hurrayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
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vdlrao
07-15 04:28 PM
Here are all the LC approvals for India in the last seven years.
Year, Total LC Approved, Total India
2007 85112 24573
2006 79782 22298
2005 6133 1350
2004 43582 No Info
2003 62912 No Info
2002 79784 No Info
2001 77921 No Info
2000 70204 No Info
Lets assume about 25% of pre-PERM LCs are India based on post-PERM data. Thus for fiscal 2004 (Oct 2003 thru Sep 2004) the total LC number is 43,852. Assume 25% of that to be India based on PERM data. That gives about 11,000 India LCs in 2004 alone (All EB categories combined). If you assume an average of 2.5 dependents then the number of visas required for all India EB categories for 2004 is 27,500 (11,000*2.5). The regular quota for EB2 and EB3 is only about 3000 each. That means 21,500 visas have to come from somewhere. I dont think those many visas are remaining for this year. Be prepared to see FIFO thrown under the bus and approvals with PDs that are all over the place. Please critique this analysis without piling on. Thoughts?
good post but The regular quota for EB2 and EB3 is only about 9,800(7% of 140k visas) each
Year, Total LC Approved, Total India
2007 85112 24573
2006 79782 22298
2005 6133 1350
2004 43582 No Info
2003 62912 No Info
2002 79784 No Info
2001 77921 No Info
2000 70204 No Info
Lets assume about 25% of pre-PERM LCs are India based on post-PERM data. Thus for fiscal 2004 (Oct 2003 thru Sep 2004) the total LC number is 43,852. Assume 25% of that to be India based on PERM data. That gives about 11,000 India LCs in 2004 alone (All EB categories combined). If you assume an average of 2.5 dependents then the number of visas required for all India EB categories for 2004 is 27,500 (11,000*2.5). The regular quota for EB2 and EB3 is only about 3000 each. That means 21,500 visas have to come from somewhere. I dont think those many visas are remaining for this year. Be prepared to see FIFO thrown under the bus and approvals with PDs that are all over the place. Please critique this analysis without piling on. Thoughts?
good post but The regular quota for EB2 and EB3 is only about 9,800(7% of 140k visas) each
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gsc999
07-17 08:11 PM
Please understand that your older PD is much more important because u would get ur gc that much earlier compared to 2005-07 people. Just because ppl are able to file 485 does not mean that they are going to take a number out of the quota for that year. The numbers are only taken during approval and hence they would all still be stuck in the same queue and you would have gotten an oppurtunity to file and possible get your GC too...take a deep breath, relax and think about this with a cool mind. I definitely do feel bad for you. My labor was stuck in BEC too and i left my company and joined a new one and restarted all over again. Been on H1 for seven years without ever getting any chance to file 485 until now...
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Exactly!
Only if people stop complaining when they see how they don't loose out even if others can "apply" for I-485.
I guess, there is lot of frustration and anger which maybe clouding judgement.
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Exactly!
Only if people stop complaining when they see how they don't loose out even if others can "apply" for I-485.
I guess, there is lot of frustration and anger which maybe clouding judgement.
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yabadaba
11-08 12:13 PM
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Hi Nycgal369,
I am not your buddy :-)
That's nothing new that Dems are pro amnesty. I am not arguing against that. Nancy Pelosi already said something in that regard I think. What I refute is the argument portrayed by misinformed members that the shift in power was caused significantly by the anti illegal alien position. It is not true. That's all I am saying.
Contrary to belief of some members, I am not disappointed with this. I will continue to be your Ombudsman as usual and report everything, probably you will hear more good news for those who believe that amnesty is the way to go. Facts are facts. I am not here to defend any side.
Thanks,
The Ombudsman
"Your dose of daily reality"
Hi Nycgal369,
I am not your buddy :-)
That's nothing new that Dems are pro amnesty. I am not arguing against that. Nancy Pelosi already said something in that regard I think. What I refute is the argument portrayed by misinformed members that the shift in power was caused significantly by the anti illegal alien position. It is not true. That's all I am saying.
Contrary to belief of some members, I am not disappointed with this. I will continue to be your Ombudsman as usual and report everything, probably you will hear more good news for those who believe that amnesty is the way to go. Facts are facts. I am not here to defend any side.
Thanks,
The Ombudsman
"Your dose of daily reality"
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05-19 09:44 AM
Done again today. I will do this once everyday.
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sunny1000
09-21 11:14 PM
I didn't attended because recently I had a new boss and he was monitoring my daily schedule and being in H1b and coming so close to filing I-485, I was just waiting for my EAD or I-485 cheques to get encashed. On 21st Sep, they got encashed. Now I am bold enough to take a day or two as vacation and attend rally if organized in eastern part.
I did paid 50% travel cost to one of our member from CA.
Sorry for not attending this time, will do it next time.
hello all, could not attend due to work schedule and a baby due any minute!! but am contibuting monthly and sponsored a student from houston. way to go iv amazing effort!!!
I was 100% determined in the beginning to attend the rally, but could not for the following reasons.
1> I was in Dallas and family in SoCal for last 9 months(from Dec 2006 to be precise). I used to meet my family every other weekend. Was trying very hard to find a project in Socal, and finally I got one where joining date was Spet 13th. I could not dare to ask for leave in the very first week. To tell you the truth it took so long b'cos of H1 status, everybody wants me to transfer my H1 or they are looking only for GC/EAD holders. Hoping to get EAD soon.
2> My husband was planning to attend but somewhere in Aug last week we got FP notices and date is Sept 18th. The FP letter clearly mentioned that postponing might cause delays so we decided that he also has to drop the idea.
Of course we contributed towards the rally.
I am very proud to be part of such excellent grass root organization and now since I am in Irvine I can be active in Socal chapter.
Also we are eager to join in the next rally and have total faith in IV leadership
IN WHATEVER YOU DO DO IT WITH YOUR HEART - FOLLOW YOUR HEART
ANYTHING THAT IS DONE FROM THE HEART WILL PRODUCE RESULTS.
ONE MEMBER I KNOW FROM NY CHAPTER IS IN PATHETIC SITUATION - JUST GOT LAYED OFF, HIS COMPANY REVOKED HIS i 140 AND HE IS BACK TO SQUARE 1 ON GC PROCESS AFTER 5 YEARS, HE HAS BEEN LOOKING FOR JOBS ON A WAR FOOTING BASIS AND AT THE SAME TIME CAME TO ALL NY CHAPTER MEETINGS AND DISTRIBUTED FLYERS, ALSO HOPPED ONTO THE BUS AND ATTENDED THE RALLY. HE IS A REAL HERO AND I AM SURE SOMETHING EXCELLENT WILL HAPPEN TO HIM
NONE OF THE EXCUSES HERE SEEM GENUINE EXCEPT THOSE IN WEST COAST WHERE IT IS DIFFICULT TO TRAVEL
Above excuses seem perfectly genuine to me. I had a court hearing myself. I applaud your friend's sincerity in attending the rally and I also applaud everyone who attended for that matter. But, IMHO, you were too quick to judge/question other people's genuineness.
I did paid 50% travel cost to one of our member from CA.
Sorry for not attending this time, will do it next time.
hello all, could not attend due to work schedule and a baby due any minute!! but am contibuting monthly and sponsored a student from houston. way to go iv amazing effort!!!
I was 100% determined in the beginning to attend the rally, but could not for the following reasons.
1> I was in Dallas and family in SoCal for last 9 months(from Dec 2006 to be precise). I used to meet my family every other weekend. Was trying very hard to find a project in Socal, and finally I got one where joining date was Spet 13th. I could not dare to ask for leave in the very first week. To tell you the truth it took so long b'cos of H1 status, everybody wants me to transfer my H1 or they are looking only for GC/EAD holders. Hoping to get EAD soon.
2> My husband was planning to attend but somewhere in Aug last week we got FP notices and date is Sept 18th. The FP letter clearly mentioned that postponing might cause delays so we decided that he also has to drop the idea.
Of course we contributed towards the rally.
I am very proud to be part of such excellent grass root organization and now since I am in Irvine I can be active in Socal chapter.
Also we are eager to join in the next rally and have total faith in IV leadership
IN WHATEVER YOU DO DO IT WITH YOUR HEART - FOLLOW YOUR HEART
ANYTHING THAT IS DONE FROM THE HEART WILL PRODUCE RESULTS.
ONE MEMBER I KNOW FROM NY CHAPTER IS IN PATHETIC SITUATION - JUST GOT LAYED OFF, HIS COMPANY REVOKED HIS i 140 AND HE IS BACK TO SQUARE 1 ON GC PROCESS AFTER 5 YEARS, HE HAS BEEN LOOKING FOR JOBS ON A WAR FOOTING BASIS AND AT THE SAME TIME CAME TO ALL NY CHAPTER MEETINGS AND DISTRIBUTED FLYERS, ALSO HOPPED ONTO THE BUS AND ATTENDED THE RALLY. HE IS A REAL HERO AND I AM SURE SOMETHING EXCELLENT WILL HAPPEN TO HIM
NONE OF THE EXCUSES HERE SEEM GENUINE EXCEPT THOSE IN WEST COAST WHERE IT IS DIFFICULT TO TRAVEL
Above excuses seem perfectly genuine to me. I had a court hearing myself. I applaud your friend's sincerity in attending the rally and I also applaud everyone who attended for that matter. But, IMHO, you were too quick to judge/question other people's genuineness.
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rajsand
09-20 11:33 AM
Another rally simultaneously in many states will have good effect provided we have min 500 numbers in individual states.
And yes since we had the DC rally on a weekday (for a geniune reason)
it would be better to make this one a weekend rally just to push things and keep the momentum going. Sure a weekend will fetch 10* more crowd than on a weekday. Sunday would be much preferred as the next day is a working day and things will hot up..!
It can be one rally per neighbouring states.. eg > tristates -- NJ, NY & PA can have one rally . MD , DC & VA can have one ..
Seems like a good thought..
And yes since we had the DC rally on a weekday (for a geniune reason)
it would be better to make this one a weekend rally just to push things and keep the momentum going. Sure a weekend will fetch 10* more crowd than on a weekday. Sunday would be much preferred as the next day is a working day and things will hot up..!
It can be one rally per neighbouring states.. eg > tristates -- NJ, NY & PA can have one rally . MD , DC & VA can have one ..
Seems like a good thought..
nrk
06-10 03:43 PM
Seems like it is going to take one year to reach April 2006 for India i guess.
Looks like I will need to wait one more year :(
Congrats to folks with PD before Oct 2005. Hopefully you should be getting your GCs soon.
Looks like I will need to wait one more year :(
Congrats to folks with PD before Oct 2005. Hopefully you should be getting your GCs soon.
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